Posts by Sour Grapes

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When is the last time you saw an educated middle class family become Jehovah's Witnesses?

by xjwsrock in

we know from casual observation that if anybody does respond to their preaching/recruiting work it is usually someone that is a social misfit in some way or a person that was indoctrinated early in life.. think about all the nicer neighborhoods witnesses preach in.

if a family of four with a father that is an engineer and a mother who is a medical professional ever walked into a kingdom hall for the first time and said they were studying, people would faint.

lol.... this of course isn't what you would expect from a religion backed by the ultimate intelligent creator.

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In the early 1970's we had entire normal families come into the troof. By 1977 they all left because they were lied to.

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"The shootings in Las Vegas show how much we need God's Kingdom"

by Sour Grapes in

my jw wife, like all of us, was saddened by the senseless killings in nevada.

she said, "the shootings just shows how much we need god's kingdom.

" i replied, "yes if it was armageddon, jehovah wouldn't have left any survivors.

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My JW wife, like all of us, was saddened by the senseless killings in Nevada. She said, "The shootings just shows how much we need God's Kingdom." I replied, "Yes if it was Armageddon, Jehovah wouldn't have left any survivors." That made her stop and think for a moment.

I am sure that all JW's will say how terrible the killings were but they don't bat an eyelash when they pray for God's Kingdom to come and usher in a paradise earth where 99.9% of the world's population will be murdered by Jehovah.

With glee, they are in eager anticipation of surviving Armageddon into a world with billions of dead rotting bodies everywhere, no power grid, no running water, no heat or air conditioning and having the elder window washers barking out orders on who gets to bury the dead. I am sure that the pioneers and ministerial servants will get to supervise while the elders wait for instructions from Tony Morris and goofy Lett.

Who is going to be in charge of rationing out the toilet paper? My guess it will be the Special Pioneers.

This just makes me Sour Grapes.

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Worldly people

by Akid48 in

as i have come to see i have way more friends at school than my kingdom hall but if i get asked about school and i say something about my friends or ask to hang out with my friends to my aunt she gives me a talk about not to like worldly people to much.. for example i ask to go to my friends house (that is a girl)i have known her from 1st grade and my aunt gets mad at me saying what if she says i raped her or something but she lets me go by my self with brothers to hang out if i want but theres a chance i will get raped there to.. read my other posts to understand my story .

akid69.

Sour Grapes

I have always hated how the Witlesses use the term "worldly" which always implies something negative. The Bible clearly states that "God loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son." If Jehovah loves worldly people there is no reason why we shouldn't.

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Episode 3 of "This JW Life" is now available.....

by dubstepped in

episode 3 is now out and available on itunes or whatever you use, as well as my site, linked below.

this one is heavier and about life at home growing up as a jw.

i even had an epiphany while recording it, which you'll hear as you listen.

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I have listened to all three podcasts. They are very interesting and any former JW will relate to the life experiences of dubstepped. If you have any friends that are considering entering the cult and giving up on their actual life and living only for the future paradise, they need to listen to the podcasts. I look forward to more podcasts.

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Counting Field Service Time

by Sour Grapes in

something that always drove me crazy was when the jw's would say after the meeting on sunday, "i have to go out this afternoon to get my time in.

" in the car group after service someone would always ask, "so how much time did we get?".

it the watchtower company said that turning in time is no longer required because jehovah knows what we are doing to serve him, there would be a tremendous drop in the door to door activity and the coffee cart work.

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Something that always drove me crazy was when the JW's would say after the meeting on Sunday, "I have to go out this afternoon to get my time in." In the car group after service someone would always ask, "So how much time did we get?"

It the Watchtower Company said that turning in time is no longer required because Jehovah knows what we are doing to serve him, there would be a tremendous drop in the door to door activity and the coffee cart work. At first their would be very little decline just to prove to everyone that counting time was not the reason for going into service. Then after going out in service for several months and now not recording hours, magazines, return visits, etc. on a piece of paper, it would get old very quickly.

It is all about counting time. A brother could mistreat his wife and children, not be honest at his place of employment, and flirt with the opposite sex, and still be recommended and appointed by holy spirit to be an elder if he has 10 hours a month in service on his publisher card.

Something that always bothers the Witlesses when they are on their coffee cart duty, ask them if they are counting time? When they knock on your door ask them if they are counting time. Would you be at my door if you couldn't count time? It is just so silly.

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1925 versus 1975

by Sour Grapes in

in the early 1970's i was an elder who was convinced by the other elders in the congregation that armageddon was coming by the end of 1975. at that time, as an elder, i knew that in the early 1920's the witnesses thought that in 1925 christendom would be destroyed and the faithful men of old, abraham, isaac, noah, etc., would be resurrected to earth.

i knew those were failed prophecies yet it did not bother me.

as i ponder why it didn't shake my faith, i must have given the borg a pass since it was so long ago or maybe because the light is getting brighter.. i am afraid that the same thing is going to happen with the 1975 video at the assemblies.

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If the Witlesses accepted the over lapping generation, which heaved the Great Tribulation another 20 to 40 years into the future, the 1975 video will be yawned at. Not being thinkers, they still think that the end is just around the corner even though the Gibbering Body moved the goal posts.

The Witlesses really don't believe the end is so close. If they did they would be out day and night warning the world and not standing by their carts sipping lattes in the shade a half a block away from the carts as they rack up the hours in field service.

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1925 versus 1975

by Sour Grapes in

in the early 1970's i was an elder who was convinced by the other elders in the congregation that armageddon was coming by the end of 1975. at that time, as an elder, i knew that in the early 1920's the witnesses thought that in 1925 christendom would be destroyed and the faithful men of old, abraham, isaac, noah, etc., would be resurrected to earth.

i knew those were failed prophecies yet it did not bother me.

as i ponder why it didn't shake my faith, i must have given the borg a pass since it was so long ago or maybe because the light is getting brighter.. i am afraid that the same thing is going to happen with the 1975 video at the assemblies.

Sour Grapes

In the early 1970's I was an elder who was convinced by the other elders in the congregation that Armageddon was coming by the end of 1975. At that time, as an elder, I knew that in the early 1920's the witnesses thought that in 1925 Christendom would be destroyed and the faithful men of old, Abraham, Isaac, Noah, etc., would be resurrected to earth. I knew those were failed prophecies yet it did not bother me. As I ponder why it didn't shake my faith, I must have given the Borg a pass since it was so long ago or maybe because the light is getting brighter.

I am afraid that the same thing is going to happen with the 1975 video at the assemblies. No big deal, That was over 40 years ago. Only those who are now in their late 60's and 70's will think about what is going on and not dare say a word to anyone since now the Borg confirmed it didn't happen. No one wants to be marked in the congregation as being a trouble maker especially with emphasis on shunning and not associating with the spiritually weak.

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May 14, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Public Reading of Study Material at Congregation Meetings

by wifibandit in

may 14, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: public reading of study material at congregation meetings.

which replaces.

april 22, 2012 to all bodies of elders re: reading scriptures at the watchtower study.

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This borders on shear insanity.

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

Sour Grapes

I watched the video for the second time and became more pissed off. They don't even mention the year 1975 but everyone knows what year they are talking about. At every circuit assemblies in the early 1970's, there was a big poster off to to side of the stage with the amount of months remaining until the end of 1975.

I believe that the video is designed to squash any conversations about 1975 because "mother" said that we never pointed at the date and only over zealous, out-of-step witnesses drew false conclusions. This will create a fear factor for digging into Watchtower history even though it can easily be proved in their literature.

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

Sour Grapes

In a way 1975 is as important as 1914. In my lifetime 1975 was going to be my last year in this old system. After graduation from high school I was going to go to school to enter the medical field but two elders questioned my lack of faith in Jehovah since the end was coming in 1975. I caved in and got a job as a laborer. When I took my work clothes off at home I left a little pile of dirt on the floor by the door. I traded dirt for clean white clothes worn in the medical field. Well the two elders are now dead and I am several years into retirement and the end is till just around the corner.

If the Watchtower Company can make the 1975 lie disappear with thousands of witnesses still alive, how much easier to make the 1914 lie, with no alive witnesses, go poof. 1914 will soon be gone. Everything that took place in that year was conveniently invisible anyhow. An invisible battle in heaven, Satan hurled invisibly down to the earth and Jesus now ruling as an invisible king. The older witnesses who go the the assembly will see the video and say to themselves that is not how I remember it; however, the vast majority will say nothing because of their advanced age and having no other friends or things to do.

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